[TV] [PRRPM] Burg's episode title list

[Judge Joker]

No he hasn't. Flynn's a character, Madison wasn't.

[GreenNinja]

Summer got to have a scene building up her character in the middle of an episode that was mostly about Dillon, and Scott had a few scenes that built up his character too. I don't think that the rest of the cast is going to be shoved to the side entirely.

[ivysaur12]

Originally Posted by Golden_Lightning

No he hasn't. Flynn's a character, Madison wasn't.

Really? What has Flynn done? Anything? He has had ONE focus ep. ONE. And it seems that up until Episode 17, he'll only have one. Madison had THREE by the 17th episode. Just because he's Scottish and Ranger Blue was great doesn't mean he's getting any of the showtime. (Just to point out, I didn't think that Madison's episodes were anything special except Ranger Down. But at least she was getting more scene time than Flynn.)

Originally Posted by GreenNinja

Summer got to have a scene building up her character in the middle of an episode that was mostly about Dillon, and Scott had a few scenes that built up his character too. I don't think that the rest of the cast is going to be shoved to the side entirely.

It still doesn't inspire confidence in the direction of the show. If there are more instances like what happened with Scott, then yes, that'd be fine. Summer had one line and that scene was all about Dr. K, I wouldn't even call that a Summer part of an episode.

[NinjaHurricane]

I'm not saying "RPM sux0rs" or that I'm not enjoying it. I agree with many that RPM is one of, if not THE, best seasons of PR we've ever had.

That said, I do think that Scott, Flynn, and Summer are not getting as much focus as they need to become engaging Rangers. I'm glad they've had one focus episode so far, but even in seasons like Space (where Andros had a big arc with Karone/Astronema) the other Rangers had more than one focus episode and had their moments to shine in episodes that weren't entirely devoted to them.

I'll admit we've only seen 13 episodes, and characters like Flynn could very well have their little moments in future episodes whose summaries appear to be Dillon-focused. But I feel like SPD could get away with having fleeting character moments (Syd's random superficial remarks, for instance) because the characters were such strong personalities (and stereotypes) to begin with. RPM's characters are much more "real" and, no offense, average. So, in order to stand out more, they need to have more focus episodes or engaging screen time.

Summer's scenes in the latest episode were a good example of some character development in an episode devoted to another character. I'd like to see more of this for Scott and Flynn if they can't have their own focus episodes in the future.

[Gilmore]

Flynn doesn't get any focus because he has no connection with Dillon, the main character.

-Summer gets some focus because she is currently the only girl, but she also has a crush on Dillon.
-Ziggy's personality allows him to shine, but a lot of the attention he receives is due to the fact that he is Dillon's partner.
-Scott is the leader and red ranger, so he is guaranteed a little focus. However, most of the focus he recieves is due to the rivalary he has with Dillon.
-Dr. K is responsible for Venjix, who is the reason Dillon has robotics in his body.

Flynn and Dillon don't have a connection or haven't really interacted. It's sad but I think Flynn might be the one character this season that gets ignored and undeveloped.

[NinjaHurricane]

Originally Posted by Gilmore

-Ziggy's personality allows him to shine, but a lot of the attention he receives is due to the fact that he is Dillon's partner.

See, strong personalities allow quick character moments to be memorable. I'd like to see the writers play up the Rangers' little quirks, like Flynn's cooking antics.

[PrimoPiccolo]

Great character definition is not equivalent to a high number of focus episodes. I'd expect Ranger fans of all people to know this.

Don't believe me? Jungle Fury. Look how much screen time Casey received, and how little he evolved in all that time. RJ showcased much more of his personality and had less episodes devoted to him than even Lily.

[Judge Joker]

And RJ was awesome.

[The 2nd Evil]

Originally Posted by Golden_Lightning

No he hasn't. Flynn's a character, Madison wasn't.

Those must be some fantastic drugs.

Flynn's sole claim to fame is declaring his nationality. That is much worse than the treatment Madison got.

[PrimoPiccolo]

Originally Posted by Kaheraji

Flynn's sole claim to fame is declaring his nationality.

And pwning his mentor. And being the only Ranger in history with a Silverbolt complex. "I'm Scottish!" being Flynn's response to Tenaya's query was simply him not giving a crap what she thought.

Keep in mind by the time Madison addressed her own poor characterization, we were already 3/4 of the way done with Mystic Force. It's very difficult to compare with a season that isn't finished yet.

[Judge Joker]

What treatment did she get exactly? Let's see. She was shoved aside, she shared her two focus episodes with other characters and the one thing we knew about her was dropped after the fourth episode. Her only moment to shine was bitching Nick in the finale.

Flynn, on the other hand, his episode was not shared with anyone else, he obviously still wants to help people (otherwise he wouldn't be doing this would he?) and he has little witty moments in most episodes, showing that he is a witty person. He's a mechanic, he's intelligent, so much as to make even K's jaw drop, in Layman's terms.

His being Scottish has nothing to do with anything. He said it, what, twice. And don't even start on the kilt thing, as that was accurate. Scots wear kilts to weddings. I bet no one would be saying this if he was American and shouted "I'M AMERICAN" or whatever.

[GreenNinja]

Originally Posted by Golden_Lightning

I bet no one would be saying this if he was American and shouted "I'M AMERICAN" or whatever.

We'd just be praising him for being the Bandit Keith of the series.

[DarkStarShadow]

Flynn is very much a character. He's smart, and he's grown as a person. The only character who's not really a character is Summer. Summer is pretty much a Mary Sue, imo; her personality seems to shift to whatever suits the story best that week, and it's annoying. Her background was also the most unbelievable of the bunch, too. I could totally believe that Scott has Dead Brother Envy or that Flynn spent his entire life wanting to be a superhero and failing because of the status quo. But Summer? No.

[NinjaHurricane]

It's interesting that Summer's focus episodes are kind of what Syd's entire story arc should've been. But even though Summer learned to be selfless, unlike Syd, I still feel like Syd was more of a character than Summer has been so far. I'm not criticizing the actor's portrayals, but Scott, Flynn, and Summer just seem a little..bland.

Also, I just realized that if Flynn had been in Mystic Force he'd probably be the stand-out character of the season just because he has *something* to his personality. We criticize Flynn for just being Scottish...but wasn't Xander just British? Besides the "Plan Xander" personality quirk, I'm not sure if Xander really grew that much.

[PrimoPiccolo]

Originally Posted by NinjaHurricane

We criticize Flynn for just being Scottish...but wasn't Xander just British?

Australian, mate.

[Jennifer24]

Let's be careful about passing judgment on episodes we haven't even seen. If I had read the summaries for the first few episodes before the season began, I would have been pissed about a pilot episode that didn't seem to make any logical sense (why should I care what happens to two idiots who aren't even part of the team?), and I'd be wondering who the frig this Ziggy guy was and what he had done to garner so much early attention. As it turns out, Ziggy is thisclose to surpassing Jason (MMPR) as my favorite Ranger character of all time, and I think "The Road to Corinth" was brilliant. Let's let these episodes play out first and see what we're left with. We well could be pleasantly surprised.

[Ranger of Oz]

Originally Posted by NinjaHurricane

but wasn't Xander just British?

...I'm gonna shove a boomerang up your ass, mate, I really am...

[NinjaHurricane]

Haha, sorry, I don't remember Mystic Force too well. Or rather, I've tried blocking it out of my memory.

[ivysaur12]

Originally Posted by PrimoPiccolo

Great character definition is not equivalent to a high number of focus episodes. I'd expect Ranger fans of all people to know this.

Flynn has great potential, I'm not saying that. I'd just like to see him more. At this point in the season, we had seen Madison more than we had seen Flynn. That's pretty pathetic any way you slice it, even if Madison's focus eps did suck for the most part. I'm not saying that Madison is more interesting than Flynn. She's not. Flynn hasn't done ANYTHING beyond his focus ep, however. That's pathetic.

After the last few seasons, I'd expect Ranger fans to understand how boring it gets when one character overtakes the season and pushes the others to the side.

Originally Posted by Golden_Lightning

What treatment did she get exactly? Let's see. She was shoved aside, she shared her two focus episodes with other characters and the one thing we knew about her was dropped after the fourth episode. Her only moment to shine was bitching Nick in the finale.

Flynn, on the other hand, his episode was not shared with anyone else, he obviously still wants to help people (otherwise he wouldn't be doing this would he?) and he has little witty moments in most episodes, showing that he is a witty person. He's a mechanic, he's intelligent, so much as to make even K's jaw drop, in Layman's terms.

His being Scottish has nothing to do with anything. He said it, what, twice. And don't even start on the kilt thing, as that was accurate. Scots wear kilts to weddings. I bet no one would be saying this if he was American and shouted "I'M AMERICAN" or whatever.

He had a cooking scene, what, once? That's not little things in most episodes. He's barely there in ANY of the episodes. I think he has the potential to be a great character, but it's pretty impossible to make the case that he's gotten any screen time at all.

Again, maybe something like with Scott and Dillon will happen in the next couple episodes with Flynn and Summer. Who knows. But at this point and from the episode descriptions, it continues to be the Dillon Show.

[GreenNinja]

Originally Posted by ivysaur12

After the last few seasons, I'd expect Ranger fans to understand how boring it gets when one character overtakes the season and pushes the others to the side.

But they're not. Under the writing we're getting now, Rangers aren't being ignored when it's not their focus episode.