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View Poll Results: To those who have seen Ryuki. Which is better?
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:47 AM   #2641
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Now Thrust and Sting's advent beasts are part of Strikes deck do you think they will bother to show the advent master breaking the contract and giving them back to their intended deck? What if he plans to make use of the unite vent and keep Genocider instead of Thrust and Sting?
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:51 AM   #2642
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Well then that's just bad writing right there. It's a contradiction. When Kit had to contract his beast, his deck was blank. Nobody else's deck has been blank, and they haven't been shown contracting their beasts (aside from Strike taking the other two beasts, which isn't really the same, since he wasn't contracting his own).
It's not really a writing issue though. It's a contradiction, yes. But it doesn't have anything to do with the writing. Whoever's responsible for what props are used would be at fault. I guess you could blame the director.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:55 AM   #2643
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You know, technically we never actually saw Chris contract his beast. We only saw him with the blank contract card. All of his cards already had his insignia and everything else on them, I'm sure he was already bonded to his beast. Also note Xaviax said that if Chris held up the card, his monster would come, whereas Kit had to find his beast to form the contract, as did Strike.

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It's not really a writing issue though. It's a contradiction, yes. But it doesn't have anything to do with the writing. Whoever's responsible for what props are used would be at fault. I guess you could blame the director.
Yes it is a writing thing because if they hadn't written that "contract card" scene in there (or at least written it so that he didn't pull up the blank card), they never would have had to worry about it.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:57 AM   #2644
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There's something I just realized also. Adam was never even vented so if the contract was broken, it must have been done so by some other means.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:44 PM   #2645
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There's something I just realized also. Adam was never even vented so if the contract was broken, it must have been done so by some other means.

Betraying the other Kamen Riders probable had something to do with it.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:48 PM   #2646
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How? Every other V-Rider was vented save for Len and Kase, who hauled ass out of the base. They certainly didn't do anything to sever the Contract. There couldn't be something in the Decks that removed a Contract if the Rider betrayed the others, otherwise Xaviax's Riders could never have fought.

Just to make it easier, I'm using "V-Rider" for the Ventaran(sp?) Riders, and "E-Rider" for Earth Riders.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:53 PM   #2647
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Why did Xaviax recruit Kit at all, honestly? Steal Adam's girlfriend again and have him finish off Len.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:51 PM   #2648
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He probably figured he had a better chance at tricking Kit. It's possible that Xaviax found a way to de-contract the deck. In fact, he would've needed to if Adam were to be left alone.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:35 PM   #2649
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the game is out tommorow who's goanna buy it i wish i could right then but im geting it for christmas with the Wii system
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:03 PM   #2650
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the game is out tommorow who's goanna buy it i wish i could right then but im geting it for christmas with the Wii system
I managed to get enough money so I could by it, now the question is will my local Wal-Mart will have it? Cause I don't want to drive 30 miles to Owensboro to Gamestop just to get a game.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:36 PM   #2651
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I actually got a text from Gamestop today about my Dragon Knight reservation. Who knew they texted you now?
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:06 PM   #2652
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This whole contradiction business actually kind of helps with my personal little fanfiction explanation about the dead Advent Beasts. If Kit had to contract with a new dragon, then one could assume that "the first" dragon (which was probably used by Adam) might have been destroyed, vented, whatever. Meaning, in order to access Dragon Knight's full power, Xaviax needed to have someone contract with a second dragon.

By this train of logic (and I'm not saying it's correct), that would mean that most of the other Earth Riders probably wouldn't have to do any contracting, because their Advent Beasts were still active. Only if one of the Beasts was dead or vented would they need to find another one to contract with.

I like this idea, but I just barely thought it through, so feel free to poke holes in it. >_>
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:12 PM   #2653
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I actually got a text from Gamestop today about my Dragon Knight reservation. Who knew they texted you now?
They do? I just call them and they call back.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:17 PM   #2654
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Has anyone ever pre-ordered a game before? I Pre-ordered it, and paid the additional $9.99 for the express shipping, so I don't know if I should expect it tomorrow, or Wednesday.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:25 PM   #2655
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The game's not due into mid december if I recall correctly so you should get it like within the next two weeks. although I haven't pre-ordered anything since Crash Bandicoot 3.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:45 PM   #2656
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The game's not due into mid december if I recall correctly so you should get it like within the next two weeks. although I haven't pre-ordered anything since Crash Bandicoot 3.
Except that if you read the thread, it's been pushed up to release on November 17th, which is TOMORROW. Hence the text I got today about it being available tomorrow. We've known this for a while.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:50 PM   #2657
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I'm only a casual viewer so I don't know how dumb this question is. But is it possible that Xaviax de-contracted Adam at Adams request so he could live a normal life with his girl in the illusion? With Adam de-contracted that means Kit would have to do it. If Chris is the only other one who had to recontract that would just mean that Chris counterpart de-contracted for some reason to and all the other riders didn't have to make a new contract because there ventara twins never de-contracted?



EDIT: One more thing. If the beasts are basically with you for life and you are a kamen rider for life after you contract with them, wouldn't the real plot hole be Kit not having to re-contract with the dragon because Adam wouldn't have been able to not be a Kamen Rider while under contract?

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Old 11-16-2009, 06:13 PM   #2658
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I'm only a casual viewer so I don't know how dumb this question is. But is it possible that Xaviax de-contracted Adam at Adams request so he could live a normal life with his girl in the illusion? With Adam de-contracted that means Kit would have to do it. If Chris is the only other one who had to recontract that would just mean that Chris counterpart de-contracted for some reason to and all the other riders didn't have to make a new contract because there ventara twins never de-contracted?
I think Adam made a deal with Xaviax if he let´s Sarah alone, i mean is his girl after all. So Adam betrayed Kamen Riders to save Sarah or something terrible would happen to her (¿?). That defenitely would do the trick, so Adam and Sarah could live in the ilution ever after, till Xaviax needs him again. LOL I guess that never was part of the contract anyways.

Adam now is contracted with dragon knight advent deck? Cause it still has the contract with Kitt unless ofc after he was vented, the deck can be activated by someone that has sorta the same genetic code as the original contracter (that´s why Maya neeeded that Evoulon reasingn the Siren deck for her).

Any idea if we will keep seeing Maya as Siren again, cause i must admit that was kinda hot, hotter than Case of course , and i prefer her over Case.
Cause Case allready can return form the Advent Void, i mean when Evoulon change the deck again... ??

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Old 11-16-2009, 06:35 PM   #2659
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Except that if you read the thread, it's been pushed up to release on November 17th, which is TOMORROW. Hence the text I got today about it being available tomorrow. We've known this for a while.
Oic. But excuse me if I don't live the thread you know...
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:44 PM   #2660
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Oic. But excuse me if I don't live the thread you know...
Except that it's mentioned on this very page.

EDIT: Meaning the same page as your post.

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I think Adam made a deal with Xaviax if he let´s Sarah alone, i mean is his girl after all. So Adam betrayed Kamen Riders to save Sarah or something terrible would happen to her (¿?). That defenitely would do the trick, so Adam and Sarah could live in the ilution ever after, till Xaviax needs him again. LOL I guess that never was part of the contract anyways.

Adam now is contracted with dragon knight advent deck? Cause it still has the contract with Kitt unless ofc after he was vented, the deck can be activated by someone that has sorta the same genetic code as the original contracter (that´s why Maya neeeded that Evoulon reasingn the Siren deck for her).

Any idea if we will keep seeing Maya as Siren again, cause i must admit that was kinda hot, hotter than Case of course , and i prefer her over Case.
Cause Case allready can return form the Advent Void, i mean when Evoulon change the deck again... ??
... Wow. That post is full of all sorts of problems.
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